Simple Home Theater Upgrades
Dolby Podcast Episode 15, May 24, 2007
How to get an even better home theater experience without breaking the bank: Jack and Craig talk about what they buy to upgrade their home theaters, like additional speaker upgrades to home-theater-in-a-box systems, inexpensive, quality DVD players, and home theater calibration and professional installation. Listener, Florian from Paris, asks about how to best experience music broadcast in surround sound.
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Jack Buser: Hello and welcome to Dolbycast, the insider's guide to entertainment technology from the experts at Dolby Laboratories. I'm Jack Buser.
Craig Eggers: And I'm Craig Eggers.
Jack: And we are here to give you the straight talk on everything you need to please your ears.
Craig: Hey, we're back at Dolbycast. Hi, Jack.
Jack: How are you doing, Craig?
Craig: Oh, I don't know. It's been a long, long trudge in to work.
Jack: Yeah, that's right. You guys out in the East Bay there had your freeway melted or something like that, didn't you?
Craig: Yeah, it melted the freeway.
Jack: Literally that's what happened.
Craig: I'm thinking about pitching a tent out in the parking lot but I don't know how safe that would be.
Jack: There you go. I don't know if they'd let you do that.
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Jack: But there's only one way to find out. But yeah, no listen, it's been a great week for me you know. I've just been reveling in my newly minted Kentucky Colonel certificate.
Craig: I'm not even going to go there.
Jack: Yes!
Craig: I'm not going there.
Jack: From now on I am an official Kentucky Colonel. For those listeners out there who don't know what he Kentucky Colonel is, it is the highest award…
Craig: For somebody from Kentucky.
Jack: Given by the state of Kentucky -
Craig: Yup.
Jack: Which is, well, I'm a little biased but it's one of the greatest states, if not the greatest state, in the union.
Craig: Are you a wheat kernel or a corn kernel or -?
Jack: No, it is a Kentucky Colonel and it is an honorary society, if you will that's dedicated to good deeds in representing the good state of Kentucky .
Craig: And you've got this secret recipe thing going on, too?
Jack: Well, I don't know about that.
Craig: Huh?
Jack: Actually, you know Kentucky isn't even a state. It's a Commonwealth.
Craig: That's right.
Jack: Look it up
Craig: So listen Jack, we've got listener mail. And we would like to encourage all of our listeners out there. Hey, give us a shout at -
Jack: It is at dolbycast@dolby.com. We'll be happy to answer any of your questions regarding digital entertainment, home theater, car audio, portable audio, game consoles. You name it. We've got answers.
Craig: Including questions about being a Kentucky Colonel.
Jack: That is true. I can answer all of those as well.
Craig: There you go. You are the man.
Jack: [laughs] I try. I try.
Craig: So we have a question here, Jack, from Florian from Paris . Bonjour Florian. Comment ca va?
Jack: Bonjour. Bonjour.
Craig: Is it possible to receive Dolby Pro Logic programs on my current FM receiver?
Jack: Good question.
Craig: I'll let you start with this one, okay?
Jack: Well I know, you know Dolby Pro Logic, specifically on the encode side of things, when you buy a piece of content generally they refer to that as 'Dolby Surround'.
Craig: Right.
Jack: And if you have ever seen The Simpsons, you will see that 'Dolby Surround 'pop-up at the bottom during the introduction.
Craig: Do you think Florian sees The Simpsons in Paris ?
Jack: That's quite possible.
Craig: I hope so.
Jack: They see The Simpsons world over.
Craig: There you go.
Jack: In my travels, I always flip on the tube and there is The Simpsons.
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Jack: But yeah, no Dolby Surround is what you are going to look for in any kind of 2- channel broadcast like FM radio. And that is a really good question. I know that there was a lot of classical music being broadcast in Europe actually in Dolby Surround so perhaps that's what Florian is referring to.
I know here in the States, there is a big push towards HD radio.
Craig: Yeah, here in the States we have a radio station right here in San Francisco called KFOG.
Jack: Yes.
Craig: Which does an annual fireworks display. They have a concert. In just the past year, Dolby worked with the KFOG folks. And we actually encoded their concert that they did at the KaBoom fireworks show, encoded that concert in Dolby PLII [Dolby Pro Logic II –Ed.].
Jack: Very cool.
Craig: And then that played back on their HD radio channels.
Jack: Very cool.
Craig: We got some very cool comments from listeners.
Jack: Yeah, I was just at NAB [National Association of Broadcasters' annual convention –Ed.] the other day and I know at the Dolby booth there we were pushing the idea of Dolby Pro Logic II encoding for HD radio.
Craig: Right.
Jack: And as you know, Dolby Pro Logic II gives you a full 5 channels of surround sound over a 2-channel transmission medium, like HD radio.
Craig: Scott, our engineer, just reminded me not to say “PLII”.
Jack: Oh, that is true. It is Dolby -
Craig: And to say -
Jack and Craig: Pro Logic II.
Jack: Oh, thank you, thank you.
Craig: Thanks, Scott.
Jack: [laughs] But, yeah, no listen —kaboom. Now since we were on the topic of Kentucky Colonel, you know what happened in Louisville, Kentucky, the other day?
Craig: -
Jack: Thunder over Louisville — the largest fireworks display in the world. Maybe we should do that in Dolby.
Craig: Or maybe we should just go up the river little bit to Cincinnati, which has a great Oktoberfest fireworks.
Jack: That is true. That is true.
Craig: Or Labor Day. It's Labor Day. I'm sorry, forgive me.
Jack: Well listen everybody; hopefully that opens your eyes a little bit to the possibilities of surround sound over radio. If you have got any other questions, you know how to get in touch with Craig and I: dolbycast@dolby.com.
Craig: Just one other point though. A lot of programming is not Pro Logic II encoded for FM.
Jack: Yeah.
Craig: And you know what? If you've got an AV receiver, put on your Pro Logic II. I do it all the time when I'm listing to my CDs.
Jack: Yeah, you were saying that.
Craig: When I listen to the FM radio. And it can be pretty dramatic.
Jack: Oh, very cool. Well listen, I'll tell you what — today's topic — we might just touch on this little bit more — today's topic is simple ways to upgrade your home theater. You've got a little bit of gear. You want a little bit more. What do we recommend you go out and buy?
Craig: And we will address that right after this.
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Announcer: Jack and Craig would love to answer your questions. Email them at dolbycast@dolby.com.
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Jack: Dolbycast listeners, welcome back to Dolbycast.
Craig: That was cool. Did you hear that?
Jack: That was cool in the break. I like the sound of these guys.
Craig: That was a cool break.
Jack: We are about to address simple upgrades for your home theater. You know, Craig, how many times a week would you estimate I am in your office talking about some new huge purchase that I am going to make for my home theater?
Craig: Ladies and gentlemen, he's about ready to bust his credit card again.
Jack: Yes. That is true.
Craig: You are a front projector person.
Jack: I am a front projector person. I've got to tell you it seems like just about every day I'm in your office talking about that new JVC projector.
Craig: It's incredible.
Jack: That thing is incredible. 1080p, the RS1 or the HD1, depending on — oh, my gosh — you know what? All these new 1080p projectors are fabulous.
Craig: Sony makes a great one too.
Jack: Sony makes — the Pearl — and don't forget the Panasonic. We've got Epson out with a great new model. You know, that is one thing that I have got to say. I know this is supposed to be about simple upgrades to your home theater, but if you're going to make a big upgrade, boy one of those new 1080p projectors, you could do a lot worse. [laughs]
Craig: If you're going to crash the credit card, go do it, huh?
Jack: Yeah, but let's talk about simple things.
Craig: But you know, one of the things we talked about with projectors is the price is just becoming, you know incredibly -
Jack: Absolutely.
Craig: You know it's something that everybody can start to have in her home.
Jack: Especially the 720p projector.
Craig: Yeah, precisely.
Jack: And 720p's look fabulous. You know if you've just got to have the 1080p, so be it, you've got to have the 1080p. But a simple upgrade, if right now you are using just a CRT TV and you are looking for a, well I guess it's a moderate sized upgrade -
Craig: You've got to have the room.
Jack: You know, a little over $1,000, you can get a pretty reasonable 720p projector and throw a 9-foot image up on your wall. [laughs] You know, not too shabby.
Craig: Well, you know, I said in an earlier podcast that as the price keeps coming down, the value keeps going up. If you are building a new house and putting in new construction, one of the things you might want to put in that house is multiple projectors.
Jack: Sure. Absolutely.
Craig: For information display as well as home theater.
Jack: [laughs]
Craig: You know?
Jack: Actually, I'm thinking about actually doing that at my house because I'm thinking about getting this 1080p.
Craig: huh.
Jack: So I'm thinking about moving my old projector into the side room.
Craig: Now wait, there was rumor you were going to move that projector to a certain coworker.
Jack: No, well he already bought the 720p.
Craig: Oh, he did.
Jack: For the listeners out there that don't understand the back-story here, I was actually thinking about selling my projector at a small premium to a fellow -
Craig: [laughs] Poor Matt.
Jack: Well, I tell you what, if you're looking for a simple upgrade, 720p projectors — I joked a little bit with the 9-foot image — you could easily get 100 inch image, 106, 110 inch image.
Craig: And they look good when you shrink them down, too.
Jack: It'll look good. It'll look good.
Craig: Yeah.
Jack: That's a simple upgrade. Craig, what else would you recommend? If I came to you and I said, "Look, I don't want to spend a lot of money but I'm itching to spend some money. What's a simple upgrade for my home theater?" What would you tell somebody?
Craig: You know a lot of our listeners have home theater-in-a-box systems.
Jack: That is true.
Craig: And quite frankly, the AV receivers in a lot of these products are pretty substantial.
Jack: Yeah.
Craig: Most of them have 75 to 130 watts in some of the step-up intermediate type products. So you've got a very, very good core component that you're working with.
Jack: The AV receiver.
Craig: The AV receiver. So one of the things I like to have people think about is, you know upgrade your speakers for your home theater-in-a-box.
Jack: That's right. A lot of times when they try to get the cost down on that home theater-in-a-box, it's not necessarily with the receiver that they're saving cost. It's a lot of times with the speakers.
Craig: Precisely.
Jack: If you buy yourself a nice new set. Now, a nice new set of 5.1 speakers can get pretty pricey pretty quick. If I didn't want to spend a lot of money...
Craig: You can come in under $1,500 for a really super nice set of bookshelf-type speakers with a subwoofer.
Jack: That's true.
Craig: It's still a satellite/sub system, but you've significantly elevated the quality of your driver system.
Jack: That's true. Don't forget the one thing we talked about the other day, which was just upgrading left and right. I wouldn't always recommend that, but if you just don't have a lot of money, and you want to upgrade the overall sound, step in with a nice large left and right, and then later upgrade center.
Craig: It's so important though when you do that, that you keep in mind the performance of your other speakers.
Jack: That's true.
Craig: It's really critical in a 5.1 home theater system that your speakers are as matched sonically as much as possible. Now, to your point though, if you're using your home theater system to listen to stereo as well as multi-channel, upgrading your left and right speakers as a first priority might be something to do.
Jack: Absolutely. Well, what's another recommendation you'd give folks? Remember, don't spend a lot of money.
Craig: I'm going to send it back to you because you've turned me on to this.
Jack: You know what I love. If you want to do a simple upgrade, not going to cost you a lot of money, just upgrade your DVD player. You would be so surprised.
Craig: That's not what you turned me on to, but go ahead.
Jack: Well, upgrade your DVD player. If you bought your DVD player a couple of years ago, and you haven't seen some of the newer DVD players. I'm not even talking about HD DVD and Blu-ray here. I'm just talking a standard definition DVD player, for just couple hundred bucks, you can step it up with a new DVD player and really significantly increase the quality of the video signal coming out of your DVD player.
Craig: The up-conversion, through a digital connection to your high definition television can be pretty spectacular.
Jack: It' gotten a lot better. Absolutely, for not a lot of money you can get a DVD player with HDMI output. I recommend these days, there is a brand out there, here in the United States, called Oppo, which actually makes a pretty decent DVD player for not a lot of money. It's been getting pretty positive reviews in all the magazines and stuff. I happen to have one myself. The latest generation does DVD-Audio and SACD [Super Audio CD –Ed.] to boot. Not too pricey.
Craig: Jack, I have to say, that's a great idea, but I'm going to have to tell the listeners, if you're really interesting in great up-conversion, in the best picture quality...
Jack: You're going to say...
Craig: You going to go out and buy an HD-DVD player or a Blu-ray player.
Jack: Yeah, that's right.
Craig: Because they do equally well, probably better.
Jack: That is true. If you're going to step it up all the way, there are a couple models out there you should take a look at. Toshiba's latest HD-DVD player is a great, low cost upgrade for your home theater.
Craig: Panasonic just announced that they are going to have their upgrade now available for their Blu-ray player to enable it to do Dolby True HD.
Jack: That's right. So, look, if you're sitting there with your home theater, and you've got some money burning in your pocket, and you need to do a small upgrade, you could do a lot worse than upgrading your player.
Craig: When we come back from our break, we're going to discuss the thing that you really turned me on to in home theater.
Jack: Alright. Sounds good.
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Announcer: You are listening to Dolbycast with Jack Buser and Craig Eggers. Email them at dolbycast@dolby.com.
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Jack: And, we're back everybody. This is Dolbycast. We're talking about simple upgrades.
Craig: Hold on, Jack, I've got to put my incense out.
Jack: [laughs] You just love that bumper, don't you?
Craig: That was very cool, too.
Jack: You were waving your hands around and everything to that music. That's pretty cool. I actually like these bumpers. They're getting better and better and better.
Craig: You know who creates those, don't you?
Jack: That's our man, John. Back here in the control room. He's waving to us. Dolbycast listeners all wave to John for creating these wonderful bumpers and producing this every couple weeks.
Craig: So, I promised the listeners that I would finally discuss with you the one thing that you turned me on to.
Jack: That is true, and what is that thing?
Craig: That one thing is a game console.
Jack: That's right!
Craig: A game console?
Jack: Did you ever actually add a game console to your home theater?
Craig: Of course not. I have an addictive personality, Jack. The last time I played a video game, I started at 9:00 at night and the next thing I know it was 4:30, five o'clock in the morning. The birds were chirping.
Jack: I think I remember seeing you the next day. You came to work a little blurry-eyed the next day.
Craig: When we listen to Madden Football, and you're playing Madden Football on a video game in a home theater system....
Jack: Oh, my gosh, yeah.
Craig: You are down there in the stadium, on the field.
Jack: Lest we forget, playing a first-person shooter like Halo 2 on a home theater system...
Craig: Which has several advantages. A—you can hear the enemy sneak up behind you, if you're online and playing video online gaming..
Jack: Gives you a competitive advantage.
Craig: Definitely, because you can hear your competitors sneaking up on you.
Jack: Absolutely. What you can't see on your TV you can actually hear with your ears all around you.
Craig: What I think is cool is, we don't get enough exercise playing video games until recently.
Jack: Yes, and that's where a particular favorite of mine comes in.
Craig: Talk about it.
Jack: The Nintendo Wii. That is a lot of fun. We've talked about this a lot. The Nintendo Wii supports Dolby Pro Logic II surround sound. It's a great, low cost way to upgrade your home theater. It is so much fun. If you haven't checked it out, please go online and check it out immediately. It doesn't use standard controllers. The controllers it uses, you wave around in front of the screen. They have bowling.
Craig: Tennis.
Jack: Tennis is a lot of fun. I've been playing another game recently which stars Mario's nemesis, this guy names Wario. WarioWare for the Wii. It's just a lot of fun. It's these little 10 second games. I swear the games don't last more than 10 seconds. In those 10 seconds you have to figure out how to play the game and win the game. It throws one after another of these games at you, 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 10 seconds. You've got to figure out how to play the game, win the game. Figure out how to play the game, win the game. It's short at10tion span theater. I love it.
Craig: That reminds me that instead of talking about home theater, as we often do, we should probably talk about home entertainment.
Jack: That's really the truth.
Craig: When you think of a home theater, you don't think of a place where you go to stand and literally have an interactive experience with the screen.
Jack: Absolutely. You wouldn't traditionally, but today the line is blurring. What does “home entertainment” mean? What does “home theater” mean? Where is the line drawn?
Craig: It's just like our last podcast where we talked about bringing in things from the Internet into your home theater, your home entertainment system.
Jack: Absolutely. The lines really are blurring. Define a home theater in this day and age. It's pretty tough because the barrier to entry or the cost to entry is so low now.
Craig: Last week we talked about something called Apple TV.
Jack: Yes, we did.
Craig: You've got another Apple product you want to talk about.
Jack: I do. A simple upgrade for a home theater, if you're looking for something low cost to integrate that'll give you a big boost in performance, I recommend a little thing called Airport Express. It cost about $100. It looks like a little plug, probably a couple inches by a couple inches. Tiny little thing. It actually allows you to stream your music from iTunes to your home theater receiver. It doesn't do video, TV shows and movies the way that Apple TV does.
Craig: So, my PC is in my bedroom or my den.
Jack: You got it, and you can stream your music from your PC to your home theater system.
Craig: Any kind of PC? It could be my laptop, right?
Jack: It could be a laptop, it could be a Mac, it could be a PC. In fact, I sit on my couch, and actually use my iTunes interface with a wireless laptop. It's streaming the songs from iTunes to the Airport Express and then up through my big home theater system. It sounds fabulous. It's the coolest way to just sit there and listen to music, sitting there with a laptop.
Craig: That's cool.
Jack: I guess that shows my age, huh, that I would sit there listening to music with a laptop in my lap! [laughs]
Craig: I'm not going to go there, I'm not going to tell you what we used to do when we used to listen to music.
Jack: I tell you what, here's the deal: Airport Express, around a hundred bucks, and if you don't want to go all the way with an Apple TV, it's a real simple way...
Craig: So I'm going to pin you down, Jack.
Jack: OK, go ahead!
Craig: Which one, Apple TV or Airport Express?
Jack: Well, the only answer is you got to have both! [laughs]
Craig: Look out, Bank of America, Citibank, Wachovia, here comes Jack!
Jack: There's about a hundred reasons I could give you, but the simplest one for me is that, well, we won't even go there, you just got to have them both. Just take my word for it, I could wax philosophical about this for 10 minutes if you let me.
Craig: OK, now I know something you don't have that I got.
Jack: What have you got? Simple upgrade of home theater, what is it?
Craig: Simple upgrade, adding 2 more speakers to your home theater system.
Jack: You know that's a great idea and I really should do that.
Craig: Go from 5.1 to 7.1.
Jack: I should really do that.
Craig: So many of those AV receivers today are 7.1. And they've done that in anticipation of next generation formats, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray.
Jack: That's so true.
Craig: And you can get into a 7.1 AV receiver for as little as $300.
Jack: You're killing me! I've already got the receiver, it's just waiting for 2 more speakers.
Craig: So, where's the speakers go?
Jack: Well, you just have to change your setup a little bit, don't you?
Craig: Just a little. Because traditionally, your surround speakers, as we have talked about it, are basically a 110 degrees to around a 100 — basically a 110 degrees from center.
Jack: From center, 110 degrees from center, right.
Craig: On each side of you. Now when you had a PLIIx system, or Dolby Pro Logic IIx system, as Scott would remind me. Thank you, Scott. You're literally going to take your left and right surround speakers and move them almost 90 degrees...
Jack: That's right. They are sort of side speakers.
Craig: Precisely. And then you add 2 more surround speakers in the back, at approximately 135 degrees.
Jack: Little bit closer together.
Craig: Yes, little bit closer together.
Jack: Gosh I've got to do this.
Craig: Now what happens with Dolby Pro 2X is, you have a matrix decoder that takes the information that's in the left and right surround speakers and literally creates 4 independent channels of audio information behind you. And the effect is a very, very seamless surround field behind you.
Jack: And that's with the existing 5.1 material. If you are interested in how to set up the speakers, again, we actually did this on the very first Dolbycast episode, a whole episode on speaker setup and there's diagrams on Dolby.com. I know these measurements can be a little bit confusing, but if you look at the graphic at www.dolby.com, it is really, really clear. Now the other things I've got to tell you about 7.1 is I've got a PlayStation 3 and a ton of those games are discrete 7.1's.
Craig: Is that right?
Jack: I should really go 7.1.
Craig: Very, very cool.
Jack: I should go 7.1. You are killing me right now!
Craig: You should also say that with 7.1, you are not limited to 5.1 or 7.1 sources.
Jack: That is true.
Craig: With Dolby Pro Logic IIx, you can take a 2-channel source, for example, and make it 7.1.
Jack: All your stereo music. Oh, gosh. You know what, and that doesn't cost a lot just to buy a couple of extra speakers, especially if you've already got the receiver.
Craig: Exactly.
Jack: Well, listen, hopefully we have given all you listeners out there, all you great Dolbycast listeners out there, a couple of ideas on how to spend some more money on home theater without breaking the bank.
Craig: Spend money!
Jack: Spend money, my favorite thing to do! [laughter] Listen, I hope somebody is...
Craig: I intend to tell listeners, he's not come in into my office yet today.
Jack: Not yet today, yet today.
Craig: Talking about that beautiful projector that he's thinking about buying...
Jack: You know what, that does remind me of one last little upgrade that I should — I finally did the other day. And it's almost embarrassing to say. But I...
Craig: You are going to finally admit it!
Jack: I've got to admit...
Craig: You've been telling me for all these podcasts, don't let anybody know.
Jack: I'm going to admit this. For a long time, I....
Craig: This is scary, folks.
Jack: This is scary, I used a projector for a long, long time without a screen.
Craig: Aaaargh!
Jack: I did, I did. I figured I had a wall that was white, I was just going to shoot against the wall, no big deal. I even went so far as to actually get some paper from an art store and make my own screen. Let me tell you folks, a simple upgrade for your home theater that doesn't cost a lot — it makes a big difference, especially if you are using a projector — is buy a screen.
Craig: You know, Jack, I'm not going to say a word!
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Jack: I know, I got razzed about that for years.
Craig: What can I say, what can I say!
Jack: Well, buy a screen. In fact, I actually picked up a screen from a company, Elite Screens, and I was turned on to Elite by a podcast named InDigital. If you ever watched InDigital, you should definitely watch it. It's produced by the folks over at, actually distributed by the folks at Revision3, and it's a great podcast. They were covering home theater and home entertainment and they were asked to pick out, build a setup for some amount of money. And they picked a screen, an Elite screen. So I figured I'd check it out, and I ended up buying one and it's just fantastic.
Craig: You know, Jack, there's some great screen manufacturers out there. Some people who come to mind, are the Da-lite folks, Stewart folks.
Jack: Yes, they are some of the best.
Craig: These people have been supporting home theater through all the years.
Jack: Absolutely.
Craig: One of the things I was thinking about is, if you are considering having a screen system, a projection system in your home, you might want to look to a professional installer to actually have it installed. Because not only are they going to install the screen for you and make sure it is proper balanced and everything, in the room, but they are also going to go back to your projector and make sure that its geometry, and its linearity are correct and properly calibrate it to the screen itself.
Jack: That's very true, I installed mine myself and I got to tell you, it's amazing that I'm not missing a finger. Because it was actually hanging the screen and getting the projector mounted, and everything. I knew the technical stuff inside and out, but it was just really hard to get everything mounted properly. To get the screws in the wall all in the right places, mounting on the dry wall, and everything...
Craig: So very often times you can find, for example, a CEDIA installer in your hometown. And some of the CEDIA installers have also been trained in Imaging Science Foundation techniques.
Jack: Absolutely. That's another good upgrade for your home theater system, if you are thinking about something low cost.
Craig: It truly is, whether you've got a CRT system or a rear projection system or a front projection system, the folks at Imaging Science Foundation actually come out and calibrate your television set to give it optimum performance.
Jack: Yes, if you have an existing TV and you're looking for a simple, inexpensive way to upgrade your home theater, have an ISF calibrator come out and tweak your system, I got to tell you, that's a great investment.
Craig: When that happens, your TV ceases to look like a television, and starts to look like film in a theater.
Jack: Absolutely.
Craig: So another great upgrade.
Jack: I always tell people, when buying a new TV, just factor in the cost of ISF, because the money that you pay to have the guy or gal come out and calibrate it, is actually going to be well worth the investment.
Craig: And for you folks that are calibrators out there, last week we spoke about the Joe Kane disk. Joe Kane is one of the founders of ISF. His new disc, Digital Video Essentials, now has high definition test patterns on it and high definition demonstration footage...
Jack: That is true.
Craig:...as well as some visuals and audio test patterns for setting up and calibrating your system and the cool thing about it is, for all the audio test patterns are encoded in Dolby TrueHD, 100% lossless audio and Joe's demonstration video clips are actually encoded in Dolby Digital Plus. So they sound fantastic.
Jack: That is very true. You gave me a copy of that the other day and I took it home, I've been playing around with it. It's a lot of fun. That disk is very cool; I could sit there and mess with it all day, I guess.
Craig: It's a good resource for calibrators.
Jack: It really is. Well, listen, everybody out there listening to Dolbycast, don't forget our email. It is dolbycast@dolby.com, and if you have any questions or indeed if you have any ideas on simple inexpensive upgrades for home theater or home entertainment, if you will...
Craig: Send them our way!
Jack: Yes, send them our way. Again the address is dolbycast@dolby.com. We will see you next time.
Craig: Tell them who you are.
Jack: I'm Jack Buser.
Craig: And I'm Craig Eggers.
Jack: Later.
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